Totally agree on this. But assuming you are one of the 127 team members its obvious you (have to) say this. Imho gnosis needs to get ppl from outside the inner circle to participate, and this also means give ppl attention here if they are not already part of the gnosis team.
Removing my admin rights from the gnosis chain telegram channel (which I had from xDAI times) without talking to me about this, leaves me with the impression there is not much trust in ppl that are not on the payroll of gnosis.
I am in hope this will change with a unified gnosis ecosystem.
Very interesting proposal. As a long-time GNO holder, Iām happy to see the Gnosis team steadily pushing things forward, again and again.
Iām especially excited about the idea of renaming Metri to Gnosis and bringing multiple products together under one brand and interface. It makes it much clearer what āGnosisā is for users.
Gnosisā positioning has changed over the years, but I think thatās a good thing ā it shows the team is always thinking, improving, and building things that matter. Thatās not something you see often in crypto, especially over such a long period of time.
Iāve also always felt that GnosisDAO is one of the more forward-thinking DAOs. Iām looking forward to seeing how this new funding setup helps Gnosis grow into a sustainable and self-running decentralized system.
Gnosis Guild is in support of this proposal and weāre looking forward to the product-focused roadmap. The unification of products under one Gnosis brand makes total sense and the budget is reasonable in proportion to the treasury size and personnel. Gnosis Ltd has proven its ability to execute on these various offerings and we expect this funding will expand that capacity.
Itās critical for Gnosis to have a core team driving growth and development, though thereās also some risk that this leads to more centralization. We hope that in parallel with this initiative, this can spark further investment into the ecosystem and other aligned teams servicing the DAO, along with the active involvement of governance.
Youāre very much a valuable long-term community member @refri . I apologize about the Gnosis Chain TG. It was a community-run TG and we took over as admins for OpSec concerns to ensure that the community is protected against scams. This is good feedback and I will personally do my best to include community members when important decisions like this are being made. Thanks again for all of your contributions.
thanks, all fineā¦imo communication is the way a unified gnosis brand has to go to grow. Hopefully a place will be found where all relevant info is available and all relevant participants feel home, no matter if its from Gnosis DAO, Gnosis Ltd, Karpatkey (for those topics affecting gc ecosystem) and all other aligned entitiesā¦for sure this would have the capacity to attract others to join and use the gnosis ecosystem.
btw: this, from a page I usually donāt visit, was brought to my attention and I wonder why it wasnāt communicated in any of the gnosis channels I usually follow.
Will be voting in favor. For context for some folks, I historically have managed a budget for a department of around 50-100 people for a global company and our budget was around 24m-30m a year so based on 120+ employees this doesnāt seem out of line in my personal experience. Glad to see a high focus on bringing legal costs internal vs just outsourcing to law firms which can get crazy expensive.
My only comments and this is just me being weedy are, Gnosis pay really need to come to the USA, culturally we love our cards and competing here is key long term (although Brasil has been a success). HQ needs to be marketed hard towards other DAOs or other types of online groups that may not fit the traditional ābusinessā that we are used to in web2. Happy to start seeing the breakdown of costs on a quarterly basis.
Glad to see all the good discussion here. I agree with those saying, essentially, that the DAO either approves this or executes an enormous pivot that isnt justified at this time. My basic view is that the only way for Gnosis the ecosystem and token to win is to trust in our leaders, then watch carefully to make sure it is deserved. Martin, Freiderike, and Stefan have near-perfect incentive alignment with GNO token holders and are taking the (extremely reasonable) salary of 150k. I love that. Unfortunately, the DAO wont ever be able to go line by line through expenses etc and offer anything of real value. We are in the position of board of directors. So far, our executive team is doing well (GNO price notwithstanding, but no fault to them) so I will be voting yes here and trusting that the Gnosis Ltd team is being smart stewards of capital.
My one add on here would be ā to the extent that the Gnosis Ltd team would consider bringing the 5k delegates āunder the tentā and allowing us to see all of the inner workings, I would LOVE that. In that way, some of us with experience running teams (@lefterisjp jumps to mind as having valuable experience) could offer some specific help, advice, etc. It would also perhaps quiet some DAO commentary that Ltd is a bit of a āblack box.ā I assume most of the 5k delegates would be happy to sign NDAs to keep the lawyers happy.
Are you subscribed to our newsletter? Definitely worth it if you want to stay on top of ecosystem updates etc š¦Gnosis Weekly Recap ~ 18 July 2025
thx, sureā¦enjoy to read it! Regarding the topic I posted: the Weekly recap reached me a day afterwards.
I voted for the proposal.
As I mentioned both here and in the Q&A call would want to see detailed reporting and breakdown of costs, but in general I believe that going ahead with this is a good thing for the DAO and I am looking forward to see what will the results of this funding be in a year from now.
Hi @ernst,
We from Bread Cooperative (formerly Breadchain), part of the Gnosis Delegate Program, have reviewed this proposal and are optimistic about its direction. We appreciate the effort to unify Gnosis solutions under one brand, which we believe will help reduce complexity and improve adoptionāespecially as Gnosis continues positioning itself as a serious actor in real-world applications.
That said, we have a few key questions weād love to get more clarity on:
1. Revenue Outlook:
Could you share GnosisDAOās projected revenue scenarios for the coming yearābest case, conservative case, and worst case? This would help us better understand the financial foundation behind this strategy.
2. Stakeholder Engagement:
Why is there no funding earmarked for advocacy, stakeholder engagement, or lobbying? Seeing the development of MiCA and some anti-crypto stances in various European countries, we believe this is a crucial area to ensure Gnosis is at the table where key regulatory conversations are happening.
3. Gnosis Ltdās Positioning:
What sets Gnosis Ltd apart in the current competitive landscape? How does this proposal strengthen its unique value proposition compared to similar players?
Weāre supportive of the vision behind this proposal and look forward to your thoughts on the above.
Solidarity forever,
Bread Cooperative
Thank you so much @isabeltellez. This level of transparency is fantastic, and only strengthens our support for GIP-128.
From some basic public due diligence of the member entities, we understand that the members are effectively just the three Gnosis co-founders and ConsenSys. Though there is no formal role for the DAO in Gnosis Ltd, this helps to clarify some of the core trust assumptions that the DAO must rely on when evaluating the relationship between the two.
Thank you for your trust, Gnosis community!
I will ensure that we overhaul our stakeholder communication and keep you informed with regular updates. Iāll start with something I think I would find useful and ask for feedback to iterate over this until we hit the sweet spot.