Hardfork makes sense. Not doing anything will lead to less devs building on Gnosis and doing an optional migration wrapping all tokens is just messy and a pain in the ass tbh.
Would hope the hardfork is passed and a following proposal to reimburse the users who lost ~10M due to this design flaw is passed to reestablish trust in the community.
Keeping these tokens around in their current incarnation is extremely dangerous. I think the hardfork is the best available long-term option; this is a fantastic chain with huge long term potential and if we don’t do the hard work now to remedy this blunder, we’re really shooting ourselves to ever compete against the other ETH alternatives down the road.
Hey @mkoeppelmann … could you give us an idea of market value of the 517 tokens??
How much do they represente in % value and USD value of the total amount currently at GC?
By reading the current thread I understand they would pose significant problems to the future of Gnosis Chain signaling that nodes should agree to a hard fork as the only alternative.
A hardfork seems to be the best solution if we want to bring back confidence.
If we put this in a greater perspective its the question if we draw a line here for making hardforks on Gnosis chain now and in the future.
In short term this will maybe bring back confidence but on long term it isnt, because we could see more and more potential hardforks, which is not in line with a stable network.
Maybe something to think about.
Hi frens
First of all thanks for this initiative to make GC better & safer!
I’m founder of HOPR - our community and HOPR Association have currently collectively deployed over 17% of our circulating supply on GC so we are deeply committed to GC and the health of the entire ecosystem while also having significant funds at stake ourselves.
The main net HOPR token is an ERC777 token and our protocol is leveraging 777-specific features in our payment channel infrastructure. It was therefore a bit a pity when we found out that the bridged tokens are 677 by default. Since we did not want to modify our (audited) protocol implementation, we deployed a wrapper contract and UI to turn the 677 into 777 tokens that can be used in our protocol and other infrastructure such as the HOPR staking program. We took quite some effort to make sure both setups are secure. To highlight how non-trivial re-entrancy is for these types of implementations even in popular libraries, our auditors at ChainSecurity identified a re-entrancy vector in the OpenZeppelin 777 implementation while auditing HOPR code. The issues were resolved in the meantime.
In order to assess the potential implications of the described hard fork, we would like to review the proposed implementation. The indications in the OP are somewhat vague and even if the changes are minimal, we would want to make sure that there are no ambiguities and all aspects can be considered. Thus my second concern is the timeline: We cannot assess the implications before seeing the proposed implementation implementation and even though we are happy to deploy maximal engineering resources at this emergency situation, the timeline of currently 6 more days is too short to make an educated assessment - let alone an audit.
Overall it has to be highlighted that this rushed fork proposal to protect protocols which did not sufficiently consider the security implications of a GC deployment is putting other projects like HOPR at risk who were deploying a variety of contracts and tools on top of Gnosis Chain. The worst case damage is that most of the HOPR tokens on GC are locked (detailed assessment is pending a proposed implementation and is probably not (that) dramatic).
IMO, reliability of infrastructure should have higher priority than forking in favor of unknown potential further funds at risk. This view might change if we know that there are additional projects at imminent risk - but even than I’d prefer a whitehat attack over a rushed fork that puts other projects at risk.
In summary, until I see an implementation and had a at least 3 days to review our own code base I’m against the proposed fork.
Agree that there is no need to rush…there might be other possibilities for the affected protocols to cope with the token design till we make a fork. But cause major tokens on GC are affected I still believe the fork is the best solution.
Well, the number #8 and #9 TVL projects on the whole chain were drained and they were forks of the most battle tested lending platforms across the entire defi ecosystem…
Expecting projects to do many month chain specific audits going forward is not going to work. People will just go elsewhere.
I think XDAI has great heritage, great brand (even more with the Gnosis team now), and has a real chance of being a critical long-term counterpart to Ethereum. However, if we can’t find a way to make users of these platforms whole and address this issue going forward so other platforms feel it’s safe to deploy here, we’re going to be a zombie chain.
We don’t need to rush a hardfork, but we should get our messaging straight and soon.
I’ve always considered and recommended XDAI as the single safest ethereum sidechain – while we sit in limbo like this, myself and others are avoiding the whole chain.
Gnosis chain is supposed to be the canary chain for ETH. If you don’t use the same standards as ETH, the whole use case becomes useless. Why should ETH protocols deploy on Gnosis chain if they don’t have the same functionality and they have to implement additional audits/checks of the code?
They already changed the token standard for the new tokens, this didn’t seem to be a problem? So like 50-60 tokens can have the new standard without a problem, but if all the tokens have the standard it becomes a huge issue?
The way I look at it, the best solution would be a fork. This would reduce the differences between GC and ETH and make it more attractive for more protocols to deploy on GC. In the end the decision is between opening up the chain/ making it more attractive for new protocols or keeping the niche functionality/ a different purpose for the chain.
I also want people to consider the following:
The token standard is relatively old, at the time of the implementation not many people thought something like this is possible. So this opens the following questions:
I doubt anyone can answer these questions, this can cause a lot of uncertainty for users. We can’t make sure that protocols have these checks in place and we can’t expect users to be able to verify. So it would be the best for the vast majority if we close a potential attack vector.
I agree that it is ideal to have the same tokens on GC as on main net. But what is that token standard? We’re long past every token being just ERC20 - at HOPR we’re having an ERC777 which we very actively use as such. The number of token standards is growing almost weekly and there are a number of good reasons for using some specific one of the various “standards”.
So the actual holy grail would be a “bring your own token” bridge which AFAIK is not possible. That means we have to make a compromise and settle on some greatest common denominator. Probably that is indeed a plain vanilla ERC20. But that keeps innovation back, approve + transferFrom hell until the end of times and nobody can have anything else than plain vanilla ERC20 or go through a fairly annoying wrapper setup similar to what we set up for xHOPR and wxHOPR.
All that is to say that the argument of having a fork in order to be compatible with main net is not really a strong one.
The voting period is over and we still don’t have a release candidate of the new token implementation. Please provide this ASAP so that the community can start reviewing if / what contracts would break with the proposed fork.
The exact thing we are doing is:
replacing the bytecode of: Contract 0xf8D1677c8a0c961938bf2f9aDc3F3CFDA759A9d9 - Gnosis Chain Explorer
which is currently:
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In simpler terms: both of these addresses contain a mastercopy of different token implementations. All tokens bridged to xDAI >1year ago the first time use the “old implementation” with reentrency.
Here you can see a list of tokens that have either the old or the new implementation:
E.g. you will find that HOPR token uses the old impl.
Here you can see the exact difference between the 2 implementations here:
https://www.diffchecker.com/NRvsKIhx
So after the hardfork all tokens would behave the same way as all the “new tokens”.
Thanks for the update.
What’s the plan/timeline on implementing the bytecode replacement functionality in the clients? Which client versions are projected to be required to run to be able to support the hard fork?
I can’t give a timeline yet.
The hardfork was already successfully tested on a shadow fork so should not be too far out.
The next steps should be the release of Nethermind and hopefully Openethereum versions with the HF + agreeing on a future block number. The former xDAI team is leading this process.
For anyone who missed the announcement on Twitter 12 days ago - you have ~18h until the hardfork gets activated.
I suggest we discuss how to improve communications after this is over, this was a sub-optimal communication and consensus building exercise.
The snapshot vote on this is still open: Snapshot.
Will the hardfork occur on 4/20 as previously announced or after the vote passes? I’d assume the later, but I it also seems like the Nethermind client has been updated and folks have already started migrating to it…
I agree that the communication on this has been sub-optimal.
HF is happening tomorrow, April 20th around 8:23am UTC as it was previously announced 2 weeks ago.
HF has been performed.
As an improvement procedure for communication I like to suggest to have a snapshot vote on all GIPs prior to implementation with a dedicated timeline if applicable. If we do this it’s enough to follow the snapshot votes to get aware of the most important changes. Imho most interested ppl will follow this while the preference of other communication channels like twitter,forums,discords,telegram, email and so on is more heterogenous and it seems hard to make sure that the info is spread in every channel.